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Bonjour,
Je suis à la recherche de Paul SCHILI, il serait né en 1863 à Zunsweier, son épouse est Magdalena WALTER née à Zunsweier, Ils seraient partis aux USA en 1880 à bord de de l'Etoile rouge, ligne SS Nederland, ils ont débarqué à Philadelphie en juin 1888.
Si quelqu'un a des renseignements concernant ce couple, je suis preneuse,
Avec mes remerciements pour une aide éventuelle,
Bonne soirée,
Cordialement,
Michèle LEISER

Hallo Michèle,
Paul Schili wurde am 29.06.1863 als unehelicher Sohn der Gustavina Schili in Zunsweier gebohren und am 01.07.1863 katholisch getauft. (Bild 338)
Gustavina wurde am 25.03.1840 in Zunsweier geboren.(Bild 9)
Ihre Eltern waren der Metzger Ludwig Schili und Elisabeth Fehrenbach.
Ludwig Schili heiratete am 31.01.1839 in Zunsweier Elisabeth Fehrenbach.
Seine Eltern waren Johann Schili und Maria Agatha Lang.
Ihre Eltern waren Anton Fehrenbach und Viktoria Ehret.

Einreise in die USA war am 27.06.1888.

Quellen: Südbadische Standesbücher online - kath. Gemeinde Zunsweier- Geburtenbuch 1840-1870,
familysearch

Hallo Amos,

Mille mercis pour ta réponse qui me permet de répondre à l'arrière petit fils de Paul SCHULI aux USA, si toutefois tu as d'autres renseignements sur la famille je suis preneuse,
L'arrière grand-père de mon mari est Sophie SCHILLY née le 19.4.1823 à Zunsweier, éventuellement peux-tu me dire s'il y a un lien avec Paul, je n'ai pas trouvé dans mes papiers.
Avec tous mes remerciements pour ton aide très précieuse,
Je te souhaite un très bon dimanche,
Eine gute Sonntag !!!!
Schuss !!!!
Michèle

Bonjour Michèle,
Je n'ai pas pu trouver de lien direct entre Paul Schili et Sophia Schili, mais cela ne veut pas dire qu'il n'y en a pas.
Mais:
Le grand-père de Paul a épousé une Fehrenbach, fille d'Anton Fehrenbach et de Victoria Ehret.
Sophia Schili est une fille de Joseph Schili d'un deuxième mariage.
Du premier mariage de Joseph Schilli avec Anna Maria Leonhard, il y a un fils nommé Michel.
En 1833, il épousa une autre fille d'Anton Fehrenbach et Victoria Ehret.

Traduit avec Google.

Hallo Michèle,
Nach Durchsicht der Standesbücher der Gemeinde Zunsweier (südbadische Standesbücher online) und familysearch, komme ich zu dem Entschluß, daß der Urgroßvater des Paul Schili, Johann Schili *14.08.1781 Zunsweier,+ 07.10.1849 Zunsweier, und der Vater der Sophia Schili, Joseph Schili *1780 +09.01.1834, Brüder waren.
Die Eltern der Brüder waren Jakob Schili *1757 + 10.01.1819 und Catharina Hermann *1759 + 23.01.1824.

Après avoir examiné les livres de registre de la communauté de Zunsweier (livres de registre du sud du Bade en ligne) et de familysearch, j'arrive à la conclusion que l'arrière-grand-père de Paul Schili, Johann Schili * 14.08.1781 Zunsweier, + 07.10.1849 Zunsweier, et le père de Sophia Schili, Joseph Schili * 1780 +09.01.1834, étaient frères.
Les parents des frères étaient Jakob Schili * 1757 + 10.01.1819 et Catharina Hermann * 1759 + 23.01.1824.

Hallo Amos,

Je te remercie infiniment pour ton aide, je vais comparer cet-après midi avec les SCHILLY de mon mari,
Peux tu m'indiquer comment je peux consulter les registres de Bade, j'avais cherché sur "Family Schearch" mais je n'avais rien trouvé.
Merci, merci.......
Je te souhaite "eine guten Tag"
Tschüs !!
Michèle

Hallo Michèle,
voici le lien pour les livres de registre de South Baden.
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/o ... tand=12390

Hallo Amos,

Je te remercie pour le renseignement,

Bonne soirée,

Amitiés,

Michèle

Bonjour Michèle,
à familysearch vous pouvez trouver une famille appelée Schille sous la ville de Zunsweier.
C'est le nom donné au mariage de Johannes Jakob Schille avec Catharina Hermann le 3 février 1778.
Johannes Jakob Schille a été baptisé le 25 juillet 1759 à Zunsweier.
Les parents de Johannes Jakob sont Matthias Schille et Maria Elisabetha Geppert. Ils se sont mariés le 02/12/1759 à Zunsweier.
Leurs parents étaient Laurentius Schille et Magdalena Ossler ou Martin Geppert et Magdalena Lips.

Cependant, ces informations devraient être vérifiées dans les archives ou dans un centre de recherche de recherche familiale dans leurs films.

Bonjour Amos,

Merci pour ta réponse, dans ma généalogie j'avais Mathias SCHILI et Laurentius SCHILI, j'ai tout effacé, je croyais que c'était erroné, voilà donc, je peux à nouveau les rajouter.

Je vais aller voir sur "Family Schearch"

Merci infiniment,

Bonne soirée,

Michèle

Bonjour Michèle,
si je pouvais vous aider, j'ai fait ma bonne action pour aujourd'hui.

MERCI......MERCI......Amos
Tu m'as beaucoup aidé.......
Bonne soirée

Michèle

Hello Michele, hello Amos,

I cannot thank each of you enough for your diligence, hard work or assistance in trying to track down my family's German roots. Without both of you our work so far would have been fruitless. You have all tremendously helped my family and I and for that we are incredibly grateful. THANK YOU!!!!!

Going as far back as I possibly can right now with a high degree of confidence Paul Schili was born 19 June 1863 in Zunsweier per his US naturalization records. I realize there may be errors in this information. In 1888 Paul had traveled from Zunsweier to Antwerp to board the Res Star Line SS Nederland. I believe he had arrived on 27 June 1888 in Philadelphia. Records here reflect he lived for a period of time at 314 German St. in Philadelphia (now Fitzwater St., he lived in the rear). It is reported Paul was a baker.

His wife to be, Magdalena Walter (Walters, Walder, Walter) was born in 1865 and also hailed from Zunsweier. They married in 1889 at a Catholic Church in Philadelphia. Sadly, I haven't much at all on Magdalena or the family (mother, father, siblings) Paul had left behind in Germany.

Paul and Magdalena married, had one child in PA and another 2 after they had moved to NJ. In NJ they lived on a farm in Franklinville, Gloucester County, south Jersey (relatives remember this being called "Mullica Hill", while presently this is a small distance away). Their children in the US included Paul Frederick or P. Fred, Josephene or J. Louisa and Emil Ludwig who went by "Lou". Lou was an excellent semi professional baseball player here in the Philadelphia/South Jersey region, held many different jobs including baker, painter and employee of the NY Shipbuilding Corporation in Camden, NJ.

Emil Ludwig "Lou" married Mary Casserly from Ireland. They lived their lives in Gloucester City, Camden County, New Jersey. They had 2 children, Emil Ludwig "Louis" Schili, a Gloucester City Police Officer and Anna Schili who married Daniel Reddy. They have many children.

Emil Ludwig "Lou" Schili married Rita Alcorn of Camden and they had 2 children, Louis Joseph Schili (b: 1939, d: 1994) of Gloucester City and Joseph Paul "Louis" Schili, another Gloucester City Police Officer.

Joseph Paul Schili married Joyce Snyder of Gloucester City and they had 2 children; Joanne Schili who married Andrew Collarin and Joseph Louis Schili, who married Jamie Packer and have a son Joseph William.

We are working hard to learn as much as we can about the family left behind in Germany and any relatives we may have, both living and deceased. Additionally, we'd love to know as much as we can about Zunsweier and the area, any hikes or farms our relatives had and any occupations associated with them. Also, we'd love to find any records on Paul or his family (birth, marriage, death, military, church, baptism) prior to him leaving to emigrate to America.

Thank you all so very much!

Hello Joe,

Merci pour ton long message que je vais essayer de comprendre,

Je te souhaite une bonne journée,

A bientôt,

Michèle

Hello Michele, Hello Amos - thank you each so much again.

I'd be completely lost in this if it weren't for you both.

Amos, would you mind if Id email you from time to time for advice?

My email is jschili(AT)comcast.net.

Thank you All again.

Joe

Hello Joe, you are welcome to contact me.
If I can, I'll be happy to help you.

Amos, would there be a family book or register for this family available somewhere?

Hello Jschili,
I found neither a family book nor a register.
You know what you find on the internet

As always, thank you so much for your invaluable help Amos, its always greatly appreciated.

I'm trying to trace down and verify family from Johann JACOB Schili (1754/1759 - 1819), his wife Catharina Herrmann and their children. Hoping to make a modern day connection with some distant family.

Shot in the dark, but we will see

Hello everyone, I'm hoping to post here ancestors whose information I have available and make connections with either fellow researchers or, even more hopeful, to make connections to present day distant relatives to see if we can clear these muddied waters of research.

Searching for anyone who is also researching or may be related to any of the following:

Johann JACOB Schili (and its variations) born in either 1754 or 1759 in Zunsweier, husband of CATHARINA HERRMANN, father of: Joseph Schili (1780 - 1834) husband of Marie Anne LIENHARD (1780-1814), Husband of Kunigunde Berg (1790 - 1838).

Johann Schili (1781 - 1840), husband of Maria AGATHA LANG (1773-1848),

Valentinus Schili (1790 -

Ferdinand Schili (1793 - 1869)

Philipp Schili (1797 - 1868), husband of MAGDALENA WALTER (1814 - 1867) and father of: Marianna Schily, Wilhelm Schily (1835-), Theresia Schily (1838 - ). Bertha Schily (1840 - ), Heinrich Schily (1842 - ), Philipp Schili (1844 - 1847), Augustin Schili (1846 - ), Bernhardina Schili (1849 - ), Franz Schily (1853 - 1853), Sophia Schili (1856 - )

Johann Nepomuk Schili (23 Jun 1777 - 1797)

Andreas C Schilly (1775 - 1815)

Francis Xavier Schilly (1775 - 1815)

And also from the following generation, families and children of Johann Schili (1781 - 1849) and Maria AGATHA LANG (1773 - 1848):

Marcus Schili, husband of GERTRUDE BAU

Philipp Schili (1805 - 1868), husband of Magdalena WALTER, Ludwig Schili (1806 - 1858) husband of Elisabeth Fehrenbach

Maria Anna Schili (1812 - )

Alois Schili (1813 - ), husband of Wilhemina STRAUB with children Federika Schili (-1854), Johanna Schili (-1840), Stefania (1841 - ), Albertina (1843 - ), Gustav Schuhli (1844 - ), karl Ludwig (1849 - ), Ludwig Schili (1854 - )

Anyone with any information about any of the individuals named here, please reach out so that we may share and compare information. Thank you.

Hallo Jschili,
Descendants from the connection Ludwig Schili and Elisabeth Fehrenbach *1812:
Josefa *21.10.1841 +17.08.1842
Josefina *~18.01.1843
Anton ~24.02.1845
Karl Friedrich *04.05.1848, 00 12.12.1878 Zunsweier, Luise Dietrich *27.06.1836
Maria Elisabeth ~22.10.1854

Quelle: fs

Hallo Jschili,
Michael Schili * 10/22/1811 Zunsweier, son of Joseph Schili and Maria Anna Lienhard,
married Theresia Fehrenbach on May 1, 1833 from Zunsweier. She was the sister of Elisabeth Fehrenbach *1812.

children, from above parents:
Balbina ~09.06.1833 + before 03.1841
Philipp ~09.05.1837
Balbina ~14.03.1841 +19.09.1860 Dundenheim
Karolina ~25.08.1846

Quelle:fs

Hello and THANK YOU all for everything you have done past and present. I'm reworking these lines to confirm and reinforce with sources - checking to make sure everything is in line here...

I'm having some trouble with the following which precludes me from completing this family tree:
- Ludwig Schili (1806 - 1894) Zunsweier, husband of Elisabeth Fehrenbach (1812)....I cannot locate any birth records for him which identifies his parents clearly. I have a number of DNA connected relatives which follow a different Schili line, that from Rammersweier and includes a Joseph Schili (1809 Rammersweier - 1888 Zell, Sainte Genevieve County, Missouri, USA) who arrived in America on 12 Feb 1843 on board the Mozart with a number of other emigrants from the Ortenaukreis.

Also, I cannot locate any information on Elisabeth Fehrenbach or her family to be traced. i do know her father is a farmer, Anton fehrenbach and her mothers name is Viktoria Ehret but that is abou tit.

Hoping to begin making connections with present day DNA contacts to begin sorting family into groups to be identified and help break through a few brick walls of missing great grandparents.

Any help would be very very greatly appreciated.

Hallo Jschili,
Ludwig Schili/Schüly wurde am ?.06.1806 in Zunsweier geboren.
Man findet einen Eintrag im kath. Geburtenbuch der Gemeinde Zunsweier.
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/b ... m/zoom.php.
Ob es dir als Nachweiss reicht?

Hallo Jschili,
man findet bei fs einen Heiratseintrag eines Anton Fehrenbach mit einer Viktoria "Schred" (Ehret/Ehred) vom 10.10.1809.
Leider fangen die Heiratsbücher von Zunsweier, bei den südbadischen Standesbüchern online, erst ab 1810 an.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7MGC-1YMM

Zu Elisabetha Fehrenbach kann ich nur soviel sagen, dass sie in dem Geburtsbuch von 1812 Zunsweier, mit den falschen Eltern steht.
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/b ... m/zoom.php
Geboren 18.11.1812

Des weiteren könnte der Vater Anton Fehrenbach, mit Viktoria Ehret das 2x verheiratet gewesen sein.
Erste Ehe war am 26.04.1796 mit Anna Maria Lips in Zunsweier, die am 07.11.1808 in Zunsweier verstarb.

Viktoria Ehret verstarb am 10.03.1837.
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/b ... m/zoom.php

Anton Fehrenbach verstarb am 04.05.1837.
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/b ... m/zoom.php

Quelle: fs und südbadische Standesbücher online

Hi again everyone, especially Amos.

I'm attempting to make a few connections of the Schili family in Zunsweier along with the Schilling family from Rammersweier. A few things I'd learned:

- Paul Schili (29 Jun 1863) was a baker in Zunsweier
- Gustavina Schili (25 Mar 1840 Zunsweier - 3 Dec 1911 Paris ) was a cook
- Ludwg Schili (1806 Zunsweier - 1858/1894 Zunsweier) was a butcher
- Johann Schili (1781 Zunsweier) was a butcher

This notes 4 direct generations of this family

Also of this family in Zunsweier, in a book entitled "Zunsweier Geschichte und Geschichten" the family is mentioned numerous times with various spellings throughout. In this book are relatives of this family and include the following "translated" mentions:

Philipp Schili (bleived to be the husband of Magdalena Walter) being a bierbrauer (beer brewer) who was licensed to sell his homebrew in Zunsweier.

An 1842 mention of an inn or guestgaust called the "Zum Adler" as well as a "Zum Stern". The Zum Adler was believed to possibly have been located at Geroldseckerstrasse 58 / 61.

Additional mentions of the family include them being coopers (kufer), saddlemakers and other ventures. It mentions the family all being involved in business together. Relatives mentioned here include Joseph, Heinrich, August and Philipp and span from the early 1800's - early 1900's.

Additionally it has been learned of an Anton/Antoine Schili, the son of Michael Schili and Maria Anna Armbruster. The family had moved from Zunsweier to Paris at some point in time (Michael and his wife moving along with Anton). Records show in 1860 Antoine made a donation to his wife to be Virginie Paris (her maiden name) in the 16th Arronndissement of Paris. Later that same year French records show him purchasing a shop and a home in this same district. The home was located above the shop. Antoine is listed as a caterer and a wine merchant. I make a gross assumption Gustavina had moved along with them to work.

Any help in identifying the correct lineage of Paul, Gustavina, Ludwig and Johann Schili and any hints leading to Antoine Schili being related to this family and also Joseph Schilling (1809 Rammersweier) being related to this family would be GREATLY appreciated.

Hallo Jschili,
laut den südbadischen Standesbüchern online der Gemeinde Gengenbach, starb Michael Schilli, Ehemann der Maria Anna Armbruster am 27.10.1823 in Dantersbach/Gengenbach.
Er wurde 65 Jahre alt. (* ca 1758)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 1&cat=5483

Da bei seiner Heirat 1805 (bei fs) seine Eltern nicht angegeben wurden, war er nicht aus Gengenbach oder es war seine 2. Ehe.

Hallo Jschili,
Paul Schili, geboren den 29.06.1863, unehelicher Sohn der Gustavina Schili, ledige eheliche Tochter des Ludwig Schili (Metzgermeister) und der Elisabetha Fehrenbach.
Geburtseintrag Paul Schili 1863:
http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=5-490254-338

Paten waren:
Heinrich Schili, volljähriger Sohn des Philipp Schili (Küfer) und der Magdalena Walter.
Maria Anna Schili, volljährige Tochter eines Sattlermeisters.

Geburtseintrag der Gustavina Schili:
http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=5-490254-9

Eheeintrag des Ludwig Schili mit Elisabetha Fehrenbach:
http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=5-490255-104

Sterbeintrag der Maria Agatha Lang, Ehefrau des Johannes Schili:
http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=5-490256-287

Sterbeeintrag des Johannes Schili (Metzgermeister)
http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=5-490256-298

Sterbeeintrag des Philipp Schili, Ehemann der Magdalena Walter:
http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=5-490256-450

Sterbeintrag der Magdalena Walter:
http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=5-490256-448

Quelle:
südbadische Standesbücher online Zunsweier