GENEAL-FORUM

I believe my ancestors are from Switzerland based on careful review of census data; but, I am missing one or two generations to link in.

This is the family I believe I descend from?

Father: Johannes Hans STEINER (born 1673 Roethenbach)
Mother: Anna BRENNEMAN (born after 1690 Weuzbrunnen, Roethenbach)

Sons who immigrated to Pennsylvania, USA:
1. Christian STEINER – immigrated about 1717 AD
2. Jacob STEINER – brothers 2-6 immigrated about 1720 AD
3. Abraham STEINER
4. John STEINER
5. Henry STEINER
6. Rudolph STEINER

I have heard several rumors:
1. The STEINERs were originally Jewish, and converted at some unknown time in the past.
2. This family was in Bavaria before going to Switzerland.

Does anyone know about this family?
Has anyone had their Y-DNA tested?

My STEINER Y-DNA haplogroup is R1b.
http://www.genebase.com performed the Y-DNA test (profile below):

Yvonne STEINER


DYS19 / 394 = 14
DYS385a = 11
DYS385b = 11
DYS388 = 12
DYS389i = 13
DYS389ii = 30
DYS390 = 25
DYS391 = 11
DYS392 = 13
DYS393 / 395 = 13
DYS413a = 23
DYS413b = 23
DYS426 = 12
DYS434 = 9
DYS436 = 12
DYS437 / 457 = 15
DYS438 = 12
DYS439 / GATA A4 = 12
DYS442 = 12 (NIST + 5 = 17)
DYS444 = 12
DYS445 = 12
DYS446 = 13
DYS447 = 24
DYS448 = 19
DYS449 = 29
DYS450 = 9
DYS452 = 31
DYS453 = 11
DYS454 = 11
DYS455 = 11
DYS456 = 16
DYS458 = 16.2
DYS459a = 9
DYS459b = 10
DYS462 = 11
DYS463 = 25
DYS464a = 15
DYS464b = 16
DYS464c = 17
DYS468 = 27
DYS472 = 8
DYS481 = 22
DYS484 = 13
DYS485 = 15
DYS487 = 13
DYS492 = 13
DYS494 = 9
DYS495 = 16
DYS505 = 12
DYS508 = 11
DYS511 = 11
DYS518 = 22
DYS520 = 21
DYS522 = 10
DYS527a = 19
DYS527b = 21
DYS531 = 11
DYS533 = 12
DYS534 = 15
DYS537 = 10
DYS540 = 12
DYS549 = 12
DYS557 = 15
DYS565 = 10
DYS568 = 11
DYS570 = 17
DYS572 = 9
DYS576 = 18
DYS578 = 9
DYS588 = 18
DYS590 = 8
DYS607 = 15
DYS612 = 36
DYS614 = 30
DYS617 = 14
DYS632 = 9
DYS640 = 11
DYS641 = 10
DYS644 = 17
DYS710 = 17
DYS711 = 30
DYS713 = 28
DYS717 = 20
DYS724a = 33 (CDYa = 33)
DYS724b = 35 (CDYb = 35)
GATA A10 = 12 (NIST + 2 = 14)
GATA A7.1 = 11 (DYS460)
GATA A7.2 = 12 (DYS461)
GATA C4 = 23 (DYS635)
GATA H4 = 12
YCA IIa = 19
YCA IIb = 22

Hi Yvonne,

first of all - there are two Röthenbach in canton Bern - im Emmental and bei Herzogenbuchsee.

Steiner is a very(!) common name in all German speaking parts of Europe - so they could well have come to Switzerland from Bavaria, or (much less likely) could have been Jewish - but they also could have been a long-established Swiss line. Better not to rely on rumors, but on known facts only.

Brenneman is not a Swiss name - you likely want to look for Brönnimann.

There is no Weuzbrunnen: Google seems to find it only in American genealogy resources - so this looks like a reading error which is being copied over and over again. There is a pilgrimage church named Würzbrunnen in Röthenbach im Emmental - likely what you are looking for, and the reason why I assume Hans Steiner to be born in Röthenbach im Emmental (rather than the other one).

My earliest known STEINER ancestors are:

1. Johannes Hans STEINER, born 1641, Switzerland

2. Gorg STEINER, born about 1602, Bern, Switzerland
married Christina ROHRBACH, born 1607 Oberland, Switzerland, and died in Diemtigtal, Bern, Switzerland

The oral tradition in the family is that my ancestors fled Roman Catholic persecution in Switzerland and went to Hessen, Germany. They stayed there for 3 years, then immigrated to America.

About 1730 AD, Johannes Hans STEINER (born 1673 Roethenbach, Switzerland), and his wife Anna BRONNIMAN (born after 1690 Reothenbach), immigrated to America.

Have any STEINERs in Switzerland had their Y-DNA tested?

Is there a website that allows entry of a person's Y-DNA results, and searching for others of similar Y-DNA?

Here are our Y-DNA results:

DYS19 / 394 = 14
DYS385a = 11
DYS385b = 11
DYS388 = 12
DYS389i = 13
DYS389ii = 30
DYS390 = 25
DYS391 = 11
DYS392 = 13
DYS393 / 395 = 13
DYS413a = 23
DYS413b = 23
DYS426 = 12
DYS434 = 9
DYS436 = 12
DYS437 / 457 = 15
DYS438 = 12
DYS439 / GATA A4 = 12
DYS442 = 12 (NIST + 5 = 17)
DYS444 = 12
DYS445 = 12
DYS446 = 13
DYS447 = 24
DYS448 = 19
DYS449 = 29
DYS450 = 9
DYS452 = 31
DYS453 = 11
DYS454 = 11
DYS455 = 11
DYS456 = 16
DYS458 = 16.2
DYS459a = 9
DYS459b = 10
DYS462 = 11
DYS463 = 25
DYS464a = 15
DYS464b = 16
DYS464c = 17
DYS468 = 27
DYS472 = 8
DYS481 = 22
DYS484 = 13
DYS485 = 15
DYS487 = 13
DYS492 = 13
DYS494 = 9
DYS495 = 16
DYS505 = 12
DYS508 = 11
DYS511 = 11
DYS518 = 22
DYS520 = 21
DYS522 = 10
DYS527a = 19
DYS527b = 21
DYS531 = 11
DYS533 = 12
DYS534 = 15
DYS537 = 10
DYS540 = 12
DYS549 = 12
DYS557 = 15
DYS565 = 10
DYS568 = 11
DYS570 = 17
DYS572 = 9
DYS576 = 18
DYS578 = 9
DYS588 = 18
DYS590 = 8
DYS607 = 15
DYS612 = 36
DYS614 = 30
DYS617 = 14
DYS632 = 9
DYS640 = 11
DYS641 = 10
DYS644 = 17
DYS710 = 17
DYS711 = 30
DYS713 = 28
DYS717 = 20
DYS724a = 33 (CDYa = 33)
DYS724b = 35 (CDYb = 35)
GATA A10 = 12 (NIST + 2 = 14)
GATA A7.1 = 11 (DYS460)
GATA A7.2 = 12 (DYS461)
GATA C4 = 23 (DYS635)
GATA H4 = 12
YCA IIa = 19
YCA IIb = 22

Yvonne Steiner
sahgoltchelet@aol.com