Nussberger von Seengen AG

[Tomasz Janiszewski]

Hello to all forum members

My name is Tomasz Janiszewski and I am currently involved in genetic research on my family. Through family records, I learned that before 1900, Samuel Nussberger came to Poland from Switzerland with his wife Matylda (Giese) and with two daughters Albertine and Maria Rozalia, my great-grandmother born in Switzerland in 1886. Samuel died in Poland, I did not find files regarding the funeral. Matylda returned to Switzerland and died there, the same as Albertine. My great-grandmother Maria Rozalia remained in Poland. Of the photos I have, I conclude that they came from Solothurn. I wanted to find out what was the fate of the family and whether any descendants are still alive. Please, any help .

[Wolf]

Welcome to the forum, Tomasz !

What exactly is your indication for Solothurn - and is it for the city or the canton with the same name?

According to the Register of Swiss Surnames Nussberger have been cizitens of
- Seengen AG and
- Stettfurt and Zezikon (both TG).
Of these, Seengen is fairly close to the cantonal border of Solothurn - so some family members could easily have lived there. Without further information it will be difficult, however.

If we assume Seengen as potential place of citizenhip, one possibility would be to contact the Civil Registry Office Lenzburg and ask if they can identify Maria Rosalia (born 1886) in their register. If this line held Seengen citizenhip, they will have her on record - irrespective of place of birth. This information is usually given free of charge - for any further information there will be a fee, however - but we would have a starting point.

[Peter.D]

Hi Thomas,

Do you have any idea what religion the couple Nussberger-Giese had? Of the three communities Wolf listed, only part of Zezikon was Catholic, the rest Reformed. Or do you have a clue where they got married, or even where they were born?

Peter

[Tomasz Janiszewski]

As for Solothurn, I own a few photos, including one wedding photo from the Ad.Schnetz hauptgasse 63 studio of the Solothurn photo studio, hence my thought that they lived in Solothurn.Or they came from another town, and in Solothurn there was the nearest photo shop.

[Tomasz Janiszewski]

They attended the Evangelical Reformed church, but during the Second World War the church would burn down and no records have been preserved. Maria Rozalia and her daughter Maria, my grandmother, were buried in the cemetery of people of this religion in Warsaw.

[Tomasz Janiszewski]

I was still wondering about the possibility of distinguishing the clothes in the regional division, because I have one photo of which the sisters are dressed in typical regional costumes in Switzerland. I can send all photos to @ or if its posible show them on Forum.

[Wolf]

... or if its posible show them on Forum.

You can add "Attachments" to forum contributions. Make sure to find a reasonable compromise between image quality and file size.

Nachtrag: siehe Lässt sich diese Kleidung einer Region zuordnen?

[Tomasz Janiszewski]

From family messages I know that Samuel Nussberger, upon his arrival in Poland, opened a ribbon factory and they will start saving the money that he deposited with the Bank. As Poland was under Russian rule, this bank was Russian, which coincided with the revolution of 1905 and he lost all money. Devastated at the loss of all his savings, he committed suicide. I suppose the body was sent and buried in Switzerland. When it comes to Matilde, I also know that during the Second World War, and more precisely after the Warsaw Uprising, the Germans allowed her to return to Switzerland. When Albertine returned to Switzerland, I do not know, I know for sure that she was the godmother of my grandmother's brother who died after one year of life. I know from the baptism certificate that it was 1910. My grandmother, Maria Rozalia's daughter, was born in 1911. My great-grandmother's sister was older, it does not look like it in the photos, and she got married in Switzerland. After the Second World War, my great-grandmother received a letter from the Swiss Embassy asking if she wanted to return to her country of birth as a Swiss citizen. She decided to stay with her daughter in Poland. I know that she had correspondence with her older sister, but no letter has survived.

[Peter.D]

Hi Thomasz,

Is Raciborska-Nussberger, Marie Rasalia, also a relative of your family? Then you could ask for a scan of the document(s) in the Federal Archives after registration. This is free of charge, but may take a few weeks.

Since the Swiss embassy or consulate was in contact with your family after 1945, the Swiss Federal Archives may also have corresponding documents, perhaps even the register of Swiss citizens enrolled in Poland at that time - just ask them.

Peter

[Tomasz Janiszewski]

These could be Maria Rozala's documents. In Polish files, errors were often made because there was an order to write all the files in Russian.I have encountered mistakes in dates and errors in surnames and first names on other topics, especially that Poland, under Russian rule, underwent a calendar change. Sometimes it is difficult to find yourself in this mess.Thank you, I will check this thread for sure.

[Tomasz Janiszewski]

Hi,
The archives have finally arrived and I am thinking about the next step ...
It turns out that Frau Albertine lived in Zofingen at Storchengasse 2.

[Peter.D]

Is the place of origin of the Nussbaumer family not noted in the documents from Bern? It's usually mentioned as Heimatort, Bürgerort, von XXX (but not in XXX), and the like. Otherwise, you could also ask the city archives of Zofingen; probably the residents' registration (Einwohnerkontrolle) of that time is already in the archives.

Peter

[Wolf]

Tomasz has forwarded 9 documents he had received from the Federal Archive to me for translation: see next post attachment for a summary.

Main facts are:
Maria Rozalia Nussberger, born 05.09.1885 in Warschau, daughter of Samuel Nussberger and Matylda Giese
married on 12.04.1909 in Warschau (marriage register of reformed parish was lost or destroyed in 1944/45)
Kazimierz Raciborski, born 15.01.1887, son of Karol Raciborski and Maria Krajczynska.
The marriage was divorced 18.03.1954.

The documents include an excerpt from the minutes of the Seengen Council Meeting on 20.08.1968: no objection to repatriation.

So this Nussberger line was from Seengen AG - and I will edit the topic title correspondingly.

[Wolf]

In the meantime 3 other documents have arrived, including a mention of the daughter, Marie Janiszewska, who is not included in the application for repatriation.
Updated summary attached.