Steffen von Entlebuch LU

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Steffen von Entlebuch LU

Beitrag von entlebuch45 » Di 20. Jul 2021, 07:14

Can anyone in this forum provide me with information regarding descendants of my great grandfather and great grandmother, Xaver Steffen von Kriens (geb. 24 Jul 1838) and Katharine Steffen-Sidler von Adligenswil (geb. 27 Jun 1839)?

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Gesucht werden Angaben zu Nachkommen des Xaver Steffen in Kriens (*24.07.1838) und seiner Ehefrau Katharine Sidler (*27.06.1839).



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Re: Steffen von Entlebuch LU

Beitrag von Wolf » Di 20. Jul 2021, 10:51

Hello entlebuch45,

first of all: welcome to the forum!

Now for the topic title: according to the baptismal record (Aufnahme 416) Xaver Steffen's parents were just living in Kriens. The father Balthasar Steffen was citizen of Entlebuch (which consequently also applied to his son), the mother Anna Maria Spengler was originally citizen of Horw; they had married on 02 Mar 1835.

In this forum we discuss single families (defined by surname and place of citizenship) only in each specific thread. Accordingly I have renamed your post. As a consequence all discussions on Steffen von Entlebuch should take place here.

Now for your question: you are looking for descendants. Obviously you have data on at least one line ... leading to yourself ;-). Are you looking for information on all descendants - or are you trying to get in touch with living descendants?

For all descendants: the first step would be to search the church records available online. Alternatively you could ask the Civil Registry Office in charge for "Familienscheine", compiling entire families (parents and children, if known grandparents with limited data) - there are fees to be paid, however, and this will not bring you to living relatives. Depending how privacy legislation is interpreted in the different cantons, you will not get any information on persons born after about 1900.

For contact to living relatives: you will not get any information from official sources. You could check the phone directory for Steffen in Kriens - which will also give you people with Steffen as given name, and with such a fairly common surname people may not be related to you at all. You may have to hope that someone researching this family reads your post and knows about connections to people living today.


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Re: Steffen von Entlebuch LU

Beitrag von Svenja » Di 20. Jul 2021, 10:54

Hi

The parish records of all places of the Canton Lucerne are available online until 1875.
But you can only access this parish records if you have an account at familysearch.

https://query-staatsarchiv.lu.ch/archiv ... ID=1230956

There are also the records of the insurance for buildings of the Canton Lucerne available online until the 1920ies.

https://staatsarchiv.lu.ch/schaufenster ... nzregister
https://query-staatsarchiv.lu.ch/archiv ... ?ID=236441

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Re: Steffen von Entlebuch LU

Beitrag von entlebuch45 » Mi 21. Jul 2021, 11:28

Thank you Wolf and Svenja. Your prompt replies to my enquiry are most appreciated, and I especially appreciate your having changed the title of my post to make it more appropriate for this forum, and for identifying my great great Steffen grandparents.
I am a Swiss and Australian citizen who has visited on several occasions, but not resided permanently in, Switzerland. My official Place of Origin is Entlebuch as advised to me by my father who immigrated to Australia in 1922 as a 14 year old boy with his mother, stepfather, 13 year old brother and a cousin.
In the hope of eliciting further helpful replies I include here below details from in the information which I currently possess about my Swiss forebears, most of which was found by my second cousin who resides in Ermensee. With the exception of my maternal grandmother (Mathilde Haas), step grandfather (Anton Stocker), my father (Theodor Werner Steffen) and his brother (Xaver Ernst Steffen) about which of course much is known, it would be my preference to learn more about all other Steffen individuals included here and details of their descendents up to the present day.
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Re: Steffen von Entlebuch LU

Beitrag von Felber » Mi 21. Jul 2021, 16:53

Hello entlebuch45

There's a book called "Die Familien Steffen aus dem Entlebuch. Familiengeschichtliche Studie und Gedenkschrift zur Jahrhundertfeier des Bürgerrechtes 1757-1957" from 1957.

I have a digital version of the book. Sadly there's no information about the families you're looking for. But if you're interested in the ancestors further back it might be helpful.

There's also a family tree of the family Steffen in the book. Sadly it ends with Balthasar Jakob Steffen (* 1811 in Kriens, † 1872) and Maria Anna Spengler, the parents of your great grandfather Xaver Steffen. There are none of his descendants listed. But you can trace the line of Balthasar Jakob Steffen back up to his great great grandfather Oswald Steffen.

Kind regards

Olivier



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Re: Steffen von Entlebuch LU

Beitrag von entlebuch45 » Do 22. Jul 2021, 05:12

Thank you Wolf and Felber.

Felber, I did discover the book you refer to some time ago but had difficulty with its contents due to not having the necessary language skills. Thank you for pointing out the Balthasar and Maria Anna inclusion. I will be sure to work back from there when I have the time.

I will try to concentrate on the church records as well as I am able to interpret them in the short term. Also, is the Civil Registry Office you referred to Wolf in Entlebuch or Lucerne?

I now have an account at familysearch.



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Re: Steffen von Entlebuch LU

Beitrag von Wolf » Do 22. Jul 2021, 09:21

entlebuch45 hat geschrieben:
Do 22. Jul 2021, 05:12
Also, is the Civil Registry Office you referred to, Wolf, in Entlebuch or Lucerne?
It will be the Regional Office in Wolhusen.


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