Geschichte der Ortschaft Frutigen BE

[Mr Friday]

Looking for someone to give me an educated understanding in how Frutigen was established?
i have some presumptions because i don't have a book that i can locate on the specifics that is translated in English. Wikipedia does have much other than it shows up in 1234.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutigen
What is founded by Austria/Osterrich nobles or Ministerial monchs?

Suchen Sie jemanden, der mir ein gebildeter Verständnis, wie in Frutigen gegründet wurde?
Ich habe einige Vermutungen, weil ich nicht ein Buch, dass ich auf die Besonderheiten, die in englischer Sprache ist zu finden. Wikipedia macht sehr viel anders als es zeigt, bis in 1234.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutigen
Was ist mit Österreich Adligen oder Ministerkonferenz mönche gegründet?

[Thomas]

Look at here, this is an article about Frutigen in the "Historisches Lexikon der Schweiz", also available in French and Italian, but not in English.

Regards

Thomas

[Bruegger]

Have you considered getting Y-DNA tested? My patrilineal descent is from Zurbrügg of Frutigen, and there's an academic study indicating that in-migration and out-migration of families to and from Frutigen has been among the smallest of Swiss communities. This means that the likelihood of Frutiger families with different surnames who are nonetheless genetically related (a most recent common ancestor prior to the adoption of surnames among non-aristocratic common people, in the late 1200s or early 1300s?) is greater than in almost all other Swiss communities.

Dale Bricker

[Mr Friday]

i've done that Dale, here are my markers.
http://ybase.org/full.asp?RecordID=RW82V
So far i've found the Zimmermann, Leuenberger, Humphrey's are related to the I2B1 (or i1C) Haplogroup which appears to be less than 2% that settled in Switzerland and <14% in Germany. I'd like to know more about Humphrey's. My research is that these folks came from the Reichenau and/or Basel area into Switzerland.

regards,
Jeff

[Bruegger]

Jeff, thanks for your reply. I am R1b and have the U152 or S28 SNP.

Based on the idea that those with old roots in Frutigen more likely than not descended from a smaller group of ancestors than would be the case in most other locations in Switzerland, I tried at one point to push the idea of a Frutigen DNA page for all of the older surnames from the town, but the people I contacted weren't interested.

Dale

[Mr Friday]

no prob Dale, our DNA can get around their un-willingness to know their own heritage. I've heard and read that a lot of researchers believe Switzerland was just populated out of thin air or many thousands of year ago before Deutchland, like there is some kind of Ancient great wall preventing migrations from sudDeutchland/sudAustria from migrating into Switzerland. Can't they read? you see the same German names showing up in Swiss documents and klosters in the 1200's. They don't simply cross over into another land simply to have their name put on a document. Their relatives would have lived there or hmmmm, they moved there. Just because you had noble parents doesn't mean you stay in the land of your heritage. Religion, Peasants, Cystercian Monks, Nobility, Politics, Wars and Familie Feude's played a large role in individual or small migrations and it happened more than they we think.
regards,